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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>何为digg模式?这是以digg.com为代表的网络新闻的自组织方式，由网友投票(digg)决定在网站首页出现的新闻。获得的投票越多， 证明新 闻越有价值，就越值得放在最容易看到的网站首页。这种方式可以称为web2.0的代表，网友热情参与，投票、发表评论甚至独创新闻。目前digg.com 的每月访问量达2500万，alexa世界排名在100名左右。</p>
<p>Digg.com的成功引来了不少中文效仿者，但直到目前为止，国内仍然没有 较成功的digg类网站。究竟digg.com模式在中国能不能得到复制?这要看中国的互联网的环境是否具备塑造digg.com模式的诸多条件。从以下 条件来看，国内互联网并不具备这些条件。</p>
<p>首先，digg模式中，可以将网民的参与深入程度分为投票、发表评论及创造新闻几个等级，国内网民在 一些娱乐性事件及社会性事件中虽然展现出极高的参与热情，但大部分情况下，这种热情并非理性的参与，更多的只是情感的宣泄、偷窥欲的满足及痛打落水狗的快 感。digg模式的成功需要的是理性的参与，投票、评论甚至发表新闻都需要主动的创造性，但这是国内互联网所缺少的。</p>
<p>其次，digg模式的新 闻来自一群具有创造力的独立评论者，尽管国内高水平且习惯于在互联网上发表评论的网友不少，但却没有一个类似digg的网站能把这些人汇集在一起。观察 digg网站的新闻来源，可以发现相当一部分文章是由独立博客提供的，这些独立博客通过digg获得大量访问，一方面提高了自己的影响力，一方面也获得了 广告收入。在国内，由于原创性文章得不到有效保护，经常被改头换面传播于互联网，这些高水平的作者无法名利双收，因而运用digg模式加以整合的可能性较 小。</p>
<p>再次，digg模式设定了一个公平合理的游戏规则，有效地防止作弊行为。digg赋予不同会员不同等级的投票权重，得到权重越高的会员投 票的文章，越有可能出现在首页。尽管此举会造成投票结果向某一些群体的趣味倾斜，但网站得以受到认可的最重要因素就在于此，网友们在digg.com看到 的是汇集专家和网民意见的好新闻。而国内的digg网站由于诸多作弊行为，首页往往参杂着诸多通过作弊投票被顶上来的链接。</p>
<p>公共选择理论中有 一个关于搭便车的观点，认为人们面对公共产品，往往选择不给而取的态度。这一现象并非中国独有，而是中西皆然。在探讨互联网这种公共产品问题时，不能光是 批评中国人缺乏公共精神，而应该反思中国的制度符不符合人性，一个好的制度就如digg.com一样：创造公平的环境，让人们在获得私利的同时，塑造出一 个共同分享的公共产品。这才是digg模式在中国获得成功的关键。<br />
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		<title>点击欺诈上不了中国互联网的台面</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>几年前，上网还不用实名，都用QQ，用假名。也就多数人为了满足一下虚荣，把自己打扮成贵族。后来，流行网友 见个面什么的。这时候，虚拟的网络弊端就出来了。有的男孩长得帅帅的，被孤单的但不漂亮的网上美女看上了，结果约好了上麦当劳见面。一见面，见光死。没点 风度的帅气男孩，看到对面坐着一位恐龙，掉头就走。这给双方都留下很大的心理创伤。后来，慢慢实名的就多了，反正你也别吓我，我也不给你多大压力，大家也 知道，网上没有公主，更没有王子。等贵族，还是等下辈子吧。这样的网络，稍微好一些。</p>
<p>除了遇见恐龙这事，很多东西是上不得台面的。比如分众无线。一个央视315晚会，把分众无线的赚钱办法给摆上了台面，这下糟糕了，全国群起而攻 之，似乎分众果然从每个用户口袋里抢钱了。其实不然，分众只是利用了一下每个人的手机，它硬塞了一些广告给你而已。因为手机是一个明摆着可能被人扣钱的玩 意，所以大家就紧张，觉得受到了委屈，犹如那个帅哥看到了恐龙一般。心灵的创伤不谈，企业对手机广告也敬而远之，生怕被人鄙视，企业成为惊弓之鸟。恐龙的 遭遇，言犹在耳。所以，今天看到一条消息：今日有知情人士透露，随着所有短信和彩信业务被叫停，分众传媒的子公司分众无线也将于近期全体解散。该人士说， 近期内分众无线的多数员工都将被公司辞退，而被辞员工会有三个月的工资赔偿。极少部分的员工会回到母公司分众传媒工作。到了晚上，分众辟谣，说解散分众无 线是子虚乌有，不过重组耳。其实重组的潜台词，就是解散了，再对上，不还是解散了?</p>
<p>拿上台面的分众无线，遭殃的其实是员工，那么多努力工作的带着梦想到分众的员工。这些员工，必将成为互联网移动广告领域的先行者，也将成为这个 领域的祥林嫂。我怎么这么笨呢，没早点转行。我哪里知道，央视315晚会，会害了我的饭碗。杀千刀的CCTV315晚会啦，杀千刀的CCTV啦，害我丢工 作。</p>
<p>其实，大家突然对分众无线产生恐龙错觉，主要还是CCTV这个冬天的狼比较厉害。你每天在自己家楼门口，电梯间，上班的写字楼楼门口电梯间，你 在机场，你在大巴和公交车上，你在火车上，你在高速公路上，你甚至在健身中心，哪里没有类似于分众一样的广告污染呢?你甚至在CCTV上，广告对你的创 伤，比见到一个恐龙网友，不是有过之而无不及么?你惊呼了么，你喊叫了么?你好像麻木了，习惯了。你甚至如那《皇帝的新装》中的大人们一样，你分明看到了 皇帝光艳的新装。CCTV难道真是那可爱的小孩?我看未必。利益两个字，可不是那么单纯。</p>
<p>拿不上台面的，还有更多了。比如广告的点击欺诈。我一个朋友，以前是google的忠实好友，突然有一天，他跟祥林嫂一样，到处说google 的坏话。是因为google说他的adsense广告作弊。以我对他的人品考察，他个人不会为了一个月几块子美刀去做弊，而且是所谓的点击作弊。所以他大 骂google，特别是中国的谷歌。他是有理由的，他拿得出台面。但拿得出台面的他，依然被google没收了几百美金的广告费。因为google认定他 的网站上的广告存在点击欺诈。</p>
<p>实际上，这几天网上又开始炒作百度的点击欺诈的问题。我相信百度也可以跟谷歌一样剥夺猛小蛇一样人的广告，当然，网上谈百度点击欺诈的肯定是说 对客户的无效点击欺诈。百度收了客户的钱，但客户的广告效果并不怎么样。这是互联网广告自始至终的一个大矛盾。你要做广告，你就应该做好浪费掉90%广告 费的打算。但以前的10%还毕竟让用户享受了，如果真的到处都是点击欺诈，那10%都打了水漂，祥林嫂们可就不是猛小蛇，而是那么多掏了真金白银的广告客 户了。</p>
<p>有企业曾经起诉过百度，说百度是真正的点击欺诈的始作俑者。这可能不太厚道，但后来也不知道百度怎么跟这些企业进行了调解。最近的瑞星发布的一 个文章称，互联网上关键词点击欺诈，更多来源于一种叫木马点击器的病毒。这好理解，据说熊猫烧香病毒(不是功夫熊猫)，很快就让作者赚了数百万。同样，2 年前不少搞病毒式网络联盟的企业，制作一堆插件弹广告，或搞点击欺诈，一个月也有上百万入账。这个产业链，都是摆不上台面的。你要问当时这些企业，你们企 业做什么业务?他们会说，互联网营销。很搞笑的互联网营销。和百度的搜索配合一下，或和那些不良个人自由软件配合一下，竟然能靠抢钱的方式进行所谓的互联 网营销，也只有拿不上台面的中国互联网才有的特征。</p>
<p>瑞星突然发布这么一个消息，让百度估计不设防。瑞星通过反病毒技术的角度发现了这个问题，难道百度就没有发现这个问题，这倒是我比较感兴趣的问 题。既然谷歌能够没有理由地判猛小蛇广告的死刑，百度其实大可轻松地判那些真正靠点击机病毒点击的无效广告点击。但百度似乎对这方面并没有明确的答复，这 让人奇怪。莫非，这也属于拿不上台面的一个事情?</p>
<p>写到这里，我突然很希望百度能尽快升级一下自己的反点击欺诈系统。或许，把拿不上台面的事情做透明了，对谁都有好处。如果大家都睁一只眼闭一只 眼，那还真就是中国互联网的台面?我记得我一个客户的网站，本来放在我的一台服务器上，某一日，我不小心把他的网站给删除了，可他在某个搜索引擎上做的竞 价排名，每日还能继续扣钱，直到他的钱被扣光了为止。当然，几千块钱对他那个企业来说并不算什么，但这种做法，让他彻底失去了在互联网上做推广的信心。他 说有这功夫让搜索引擎给他推广，还不如花点钱给贫困大学生，让他们在网上勤工俭学呢。起码，对社会还起到了推动作用。摧毁的是对中国互联网的信心啊。真是 可悲复可叹。</p>
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